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That the president on the one hand is very angry at don mcgahn for the 30 hours he spent purportedly because he was concerned about being set up, so he went in and gave apparently very detailed interviews to the special counsel's office. but none of that would have happened or at least not all of it would have happened had they asserted executive privilege. the president, as he said on that tape that led into this segment, waived executive privilege. he's angry at don mcgahn for something he did. >> that's common. >> do you think that with mcgahn out, there's a greater chance, jeffrey, that he...

Not prepared for the oncoming, onslaught. a lot of this assumes, of course, that democrats take control of the house of representatives. we lived through something similar when the republicans took the house and the senate in 1994. speaker gingrich in particular instructed the committees and subcommittees to just begin to launch investigations. you know, i did not much more than -- that's not true. the bulk of my work as white house counsel had to do with government investigations. particularly over on the house side but also on the senate side. so you know, look, i think the president is tota...

Particular donald trump would be nervous to have this person unleashed. remember, donald trump and his team could have invoked, although it would have been difficult to have it go into court battles, he could have invoked the privilege. he chose not to. everything he said was fair game and can be used against him in the court of law and a court of public opinion. >> thank you both. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> when we come back, don mcgahn and his deputy leaving the white house counsel office at what might be the worst possible time. i'm going to ask a man who in fact served in tha...

Trump's more extreme be instincts. he's stopped trump from the firing -- the firewall. literally a firewall. he stopped trump from firing jeff sessions, from firing robert mueller, from firing rod rosenstein and obviously trump chased against that. in the pattern of the last year and a half is that he gets rid of anybody who acts as firewall on him. he got rid of mcmaster and tillerson. he's trump unbound. this is like trying to put a straitjacket on the incredible hulk. you can do it for a minute when he's bruce banner. then he hulks out and donald trump is hulking out and he feels frustrated...

Abby lowell, jared kushner's attorney, the son-in-law. >> you think about what the house of representatives and the senate have been like. they have existing to protect the president from investigations for the past two years. there have been no investigations of the white house. that would change on a dime. what happens if jerry in addition nad letter says we want to subpoena the president's tax returns? they could do that. who is going to represent the president there? we want to get michael cohen to testify before the house of representatives. we want to see his e-mails. all of that has to ...