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Violence regarding charlottesville. in a new piece he writes that officials like mattis and kelly are signaling to the congress and the american people that trump is wholly unfit for the job. i am joined by former ambassador john pheele y. what do you think of this style of protest while staying on the job. >> there's a couple things you have to take into account. number one, i was a career official. this individual has given every indication that he or she is an appointee, not a career official. i attempted to leave quietly. the only reason that i came out and spoke the way i did, first in a ...

Correlater. you didn't get as much attention. you explained how they were trying to dog you. isn't there a lot of evidence that this is having, at least a bigger initial impact. >> ari, there's no doubt that whoever wrote this and put it in the "new york times" knew that they were going to get a lot of play. there's also no doubt that i was an ambassador. i was one of "x." i was not that close to the president. and you're 100% right that i wouldn't get anywhere near the attention that somebody who sits in the white house or professes to sit in the white house would get. mine was a reaction to ...