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In the business community. but i think obviously part of -- as i just mentioned that the previous question, part of the reason he is frustrated with the senate rules is because when there is a majority of support on key issues or key people, he thinks it's standing in the way of progress that the american people have asked for. >> let me ask you about the fbi director before the foreign trip joe lieberman was the leading candidate identified by the president. joe lieberman's out. where does the fbi director search stand? john pixel, is he there at the white house interviewing? is he the leadin...

There's already a name that's circulating along my contacts, not someone necessarily who will be recommended by this administration but certainly someone who they think would have the ability to step into this role as fbi director and that's john pixel. he was a former tsa administrator but before that, he had almost three decades career at the fbi and he has a strong tie back to indiana and the vice president mike pence, so he would seem to check a lot of the boxes that were going to try and get in touch with him this evening. >> martha: interesting. thank you very much. so let's bring in for...