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Consequential. there were in the filing that durham put in with the court saying, maybe there's a conflict of interest between this law firm, it was a bit of an anecdote saying there were lawyers involved in this and also in this situation where sussman got information about data that was -- relates to internet traffic near trump tower and the white house before trump came into office. but because it was just sort of, like, tucked in there in a way that, you know, this is not about the charge itself, it's not a charge in and of itself. there's no crime that anyone suggested was being committed...

>> it's funny, the more trouble trump gets into, the wilder the charges and conspiracy theories about me seem to get. so, now his accountants have fired him and investigations draw closer to him, and right on cue, the noise machine gets turned up, doesn't it? >> hayes, is there anything to clinton's framing that this is an attempt to distract from donald trump's latest legal troubles, sandwiching this all together? >> yes and no. on the one hand, yes, this is what conservative media want to focus on. they don't want to focus on donald trump. do i think that trump himself said, okay, john sussm...