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Tester in a minute. think he's a strong candidate. your thoughts about virginia? i think ohio look good. i'm going to get on the john test irin a minute. your thoughts about tim kaine? >> a margin of error race, like thune/daschle, which i think a lot of people will remember, but i think it will be very much tied to how president obama does in virginia. i traveled to richmond and saw tim kaine debate george allen. he's a very good debater. he is crisp and put george allen on the defense for a lot of fiscal -- ç >> i think he runs ahead of obama, what do you think? >> i'm not sure. really int...

How can he lose? he's such the perfect democrat for that state? >> i -- >> christina, please. >> roll call has this rated that it is a seat that is probably going to remain in democratic hands. for all the reasons that you outline, he's got a pretty strong organization. the republican likely nominee is josh mandel, he's pretty strong but brown is one of those interesting candidates who won in 2006, he ousted mike dewine and really representative, you know, of a vulnerable democrat right after the republicans did so well in ohio in 2010 and actually he's doing okay. polls better than barack oba...