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Illegally. they'll be here whether we pass the bill or not. there are no consequences to that. there won't be any consequences to that under this president. every year that goes by the more entrenched. they're not paying taxes. they're not being held accountable for the work they're doing, etc. we don't know who they are. these are the reasons why we have to pass the immigration reform. if you leave the status quo in place, that is amnesty. >> senator, i know you have to go. we're 40 years past watergate. they've said the way these hearings are going on, the irs, benghazi, who knows what happe...

That, but only if we can ensure that this isn't followed up by another wave of illegal immigration. one of the things that shakes people's confidence if that's true, if that's going to happen, is the way this administration has administered our current administration laws. when these folks are chanting, yes, we can, they should be chanting it to the white house. if they want a secure border and want to improve that situation, they could have that now. one of the reasons why we have to pass this law is you can't leave in place the status quo. >> i hear where you're coming from, senator. a lot o...

Bottom of what happened here. >> you recently filed an amendment to the 2013 farm bill that would call for stiff punishment of irs agents who leak. >> right. >> what would that punishment involve? >> well, basically it will become a felony if they're doing it deliberately like that. i think that's really problematic. think about it. you're turning over documents to a government agent i is. someone in that government agency is cooperate with the press in an effort to embarrass you. that's separate from the paperwork targeting. that's another thing that happened that hasn't gotten nearly enough ...

I think the fact that the white house counsel's office knew this in april of this year, didn't tell the president about it. the white house said we didn't find out until may 10th when lois lerner went in front of the aba conference and dropped the bomb, that's a big mistake. the president of the united states should have been aware of it and made aware sooner. obviously they were trying to keep a lot of information from coming out until it absolutely was going to come out. when the inspectors general's report was going to be released, then they were forced to act. >> it is getting weirder and ...

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