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I think -- >> part of -- >> i think it's sort of like the point of the lance here. i think this began a number of years ago when american people started deciding that the president of the other party was not legitimate, was not legitimate. a lot of people thought that bill clinton -- you'll remember. bill clinton wasn't elected. that a lot of people thought george w. wasn't legitimate, wasn't -- >> who was jane fonda's husband? >> tom hayden. >> he accused his democratic opponent, john tutee, of dating teenagers. he said, name one, and he said, i meant it metaphorically. what does that mean? >...

This. >> do you buy this theory, it's only metaphorical? >> i don't, totally. i think -- >> part of -- >> i think it's sort of like the point of the lance here. i think this began a number of years ago when american people started deciding that the president of the other party was not legitimate, was not legitimate. a lot of people thought that bill clinton -- you'll remember. bill clinton wasn't elected. that a lot of people thought george w. wasn't legitimate, wasn't -- >> who was jane fonda's husband? >> tom hayden. >> he accused his democratic opponent, john tutee, of dating teenagers. he ...