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Operate with less. they can't do it, martha. they can't do it. they need to hire more police officers. they need to train those police officers and they need to be able to be trained to help even the mentally ill out there in new york. >> martha: it's a great point. one of the things they have to struggle with though, ted. you have mayors across america including deblasio and frye in minneapolis who have fed into the notion that police are bad. that they need to be reined in and we've seen examples across the country where it led to prosecution. chauvin was found guilty on all counts and the p...

>> definitely different leaders. any leader that is out here preaching defund police departments, taking money away from police departments, you need to get rid of those leaders. you need people with a vision where they can be married with the police department so police officers can protect their communities, protecting their community is the first thing that a police department wants to do. and you cannot tie their hands and when you look at deblasio and what happened in minneapolis, they are tying the hands of law enforcement officers and you are making citizens less safe, martha. >> martha...

People and he has huge intuition. he has taken advantage of all of our presidents democratic and republicans, i think, right up until the present. >> bill: more from jack keane in a moment when he joins us live. >> martha: growing fallout from efforts to defund police and look what we're seeing across the country. violent crime spikes in all of our big cities. former detective ted williams on that. ♪♪♪ veteran homeowners, this is the best time in history to turn your home equity into cash. because home values have climbed to all time highs. and so has your equity. turn it into cash now, ...

Broofsh the bill for primaries. it would shift it from a caucus to my prayer which then would put it ahead of new hampshire and iowa. they argue nevada would be better state to cast the first ballots because of its diverse population. manchester and iowa would have a thing to say about that. it has been rumored before but never gotten off the ground. bear in mind that when we were in iowa for the democratic caucus, we're not quite sure -- they said buttigieg won but -- >> martha: you'll never know. like where the virus came from. >> bill: watching you and bret sit on the stools all night long ...

That makes some people nervous. >> it makes them very nervous. the problem is i have enough police officers to police. that's what's going on in new york and around the country is that we just don't have enough men and women who are willing to take the abuse and stay in law enforcement. >> martha: you have to prove to them first you have their back and that you will support them for them to want to take on that job as you did for so many years. good to see you as always. >> bill: 45 past. record breaking month. migrant encounters hitting a 20 year high as some critics warn the biden administra...