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She gives this announcement. but we're at a really critical point. >> of course. jim? >> manu raju, as we wait for pelosi to come to the podium there, is there any doubt, manu, that she says we're going to move forward with the next steps of impeachment? >> it would be a big surprise if she suddenly decided to back off at this moment because she's listening to her caucus. she's talking to her colleagues, and there are very few democrats who do not believe the president should be impeached or move forward to drafting those articles of impeachment because right now as we saw on the vote to forma...

Threat to democracy and she did not believe the president should be impeached being a threat to democracy. that would be a big surprise. >> that's a very good point, manu. she chooses every word very carefully. dana, but her message last night in that meeting that manu reported on earlier to democrats in the house was, be disciplined because she has heard and everyone the country has heard her bring up al green's words about impeaching the president long ago. jerry nadler's own words about the three things you need to impeach, one being bipartisan support of the american people, coming back to...

She said, let us begin where our founders began in 1776 and quoted ben franklin and others and led up to the nurkews, i'm asking our chairman to draft articles of impeachment. but the laying of the history before making that announcement. >> that's in line with what we were hearing out of the house judiciary committee yesterday. that proceeding with several experts, three attorneys, three law experts saying exactly that. the president, in their view, violated the constitution. something the founders would not have stood for and the founders would expect the house would impeach in a situation l...

Point, why it's so problematic for the president to abuse his power in this way to undermine our election because it subverts the will, the true free will of voters and makes us less safe. and that's why i disagree a little bit that they should keep it so narrow. i think they need to establish a pattern of behavior from this president in order to get him removed. this is not something that can be seen in isolation but something he's seen before and will be something that he'll continue to do if they don't act now. >> john king back to you. once we get the articles, the process moves forward in...

It's been a circuitous route but at this point we all need to work together and win this game for america. >> i understand your point. let's move on. one of the three tenets that chairman nadler set out a year ago when on msnbc to move forward with impeachment is bipartisanship. here is what he said. >> you have to be able to think before -- at the beginning of the impeachment process that the evidence is so clear of offenses so grave that once you've laid out all the evidence, a good fraction of the opposition voters will say, will reluctantly admit to themselves, they have to do it. otherwis...