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Us. that paid off in a way we hoped if we needed it, but we never wanted to have to use it. as far as the response that night, our response time, i can honestly say for our first arriving units was less than five seconds. the reason i say that is stationed about a mile south was coming back from a traffic accident call. they took a left on reno and turned on to giles and the captain is like that's gunfire. they were right there at the event. the captain said dispatch, do you have reports of gunfire and something going on because i'm hearing a lot of gunfire. they said no. oh, yes. now we do. i...

Proximity to california, four hours from san francisco and four hours from the desert. so, there you go. but, you know, it's really a question of what's the tax climate, what's the regulatory climate, what's the permitting climate. so, you've got a bunch of folks here in western nevada that are can-do folks. >> before we got to jacob's piece on reno, we heard from voters here in nevada which talks about tax reform. i know from my time covering the president and an issue that penetrated for voters. you were on the appropriations committee, how likely is it we're likely going to see tax reform b...

We have to ask the questions. nobody know what is's going on any individual's mind or heart at any given time, but it's been a couple of years since holder was held in contempt by this congress. now they're going to go after lois learner from the irs. but you have to ask, why is he being singled out and it's a fair question. >> but even before we get to lerner, which is another point i would argue against them, let me go gook you on this one, karen, let's not forget the attacks on reno, yes. the attacks on ashcroft, yes. but it's unprecedented on this attorney general. in american history, con...