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Fringe right who thrive on this stuff seem to take hold of the republican party? it's certainly not an issue to attract independent swing voters in the 2012 election. is it time for the gop to say good-bye to the birthers? for more, i'm joined by two political analysts. jonathan alter and jonathan connish. first of all, michael, will they get rid of the birthers and say no more pandering and applause lines at the convention? no more feeding the crazies? >> no. that's not going to happen and the reason it's not going to happen is because of the 2012 election and the power these folks now have i...

A campaign. >> well, he also said it was the biggest con in history. welcome back. he claimed he didn't want the birth certificate to be an issue in the possible presidential campaign but, of course, it became his issue over the past several weeks so when did the fringe right who thrive on this stuff seem to take hold of the republican party? it's certainly not an issue to attract independent swing voters in the 2012 election. is it time for the gop to say good-bye to the birthers? for more, i'm joined by two political analysts. jonathan alter and jonathan connish. first of all, michael, will ...