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Ngto play the possibility of escalating another strike somewhere else. you see it is real easy to takei a zone.so we can't get into wars overem i something that was supposed towh be a problem in the red sea, which was a problem that needed to be dealt with. there were 100 ways better to dn with them we are doing it right now. >> laura: nathan, your response to that, concern aboutc a widening conflict in the start of what is going to be a tight and obviously very dramatic presidential election yearin choosing the next commander-in-chief and we hope a new one. >> you know, laura, it is responsib...

Understand about hitting people hard and not doing these little pinprick attacks d because that does not deter anybody as we have seen graphically and pretty self evident that wil'sl not be the case. we know we cannot go in and just throw a bunch of missiles into yemen and think that will make any difference, even if a lot of missiles. saudi arabia just tried since 2015 t ando militarily take a bg punishment. t i think they have a lot of capacity to endure these hitsha and keep hittingve back. that is where they can also have their own side of thisno escalation ladder which we have to be conce...

Coordination and collaboration n right now because joe biden and kamala harris is number one and number two in the nation's government. otherwise make smart people saya stupid things albil the time. >> laura: we have a cabinet of firsts. then we have tony blinken who started his tenure as secretary ofttin state essentially getting lectured by china. remember that meeting in alaskaa now headlined in "the new york times," wal tony blinken talks a grand vision for the this but hits a wall in israel. strikes expand battleground for the west for the war in the v middle east. >> it is not surprising...

Country could already be here. >> laura: nathan, is it a point of interest that germany f and france did not choose to join this effort tonight? obviously the two larger economies in the e.u.. the u.k., and the u.s. to handle this.h, you >> yeah, i'm not sure if other countries from europe were to participate that that would actually be a good thing because it tends to be the less common to nominate or respond.ho the u.s. and the u.k., we got some reps. we need to take terrace off the battlefield. i'm pretty comfortable with thet eisenhower and its britishgrap counterpart leading us. whatl da ...

Heard -- well, we haven't heard anything from the white house but i think sure want to heare quickly what next? d what happens if the houthis makt good on this threat and do hit some of our interest or some of our people somewhere else? they strike on the border, what will you do? we have to escalate even highera and take what is a problem into the red sea and it could be drawing us into a war, which go only knows where that will go. we do not need a new war. >> laura: nathan come on cue, t hethe less question, political t of the u.s. and the u.k. did have support from australia, the netherlan...