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Since january 6th that we know will cause harm. they have the means, opportunity and intent to cause harm against individuals and groups in asset locations so they have to show this force today. it's completely appropriate, predicated on the threats they have. they're doing a good job in preparation and hopefully this is a non-event but they have to be prepared for every contingency. >> we hope it is a non-event and as you stated, that it becomes a deterrent for any potential future actors to seo figures alls are ready in case anybody decides to do something stupid. jonathan, thank you so much...

>> we have jonathan whacker with us to discuss, a former secret service agent and a corporate security consultant. good morning. thanks for joining us. preparations for this rally significantly different than what we saw on january 6th. there's fencing up around the capitol. 100 dc national guard members standing by. given everything you've seen, how would you assess the security threat and also the preparations that have been made to try to meet that threat? >> good morning. i think the preparations that have been made to date are appropriate but first let's talk about the threat and the seri...

Are -- that was a part of the crime scene. jason, thank you so much. really appreciate it. joining me to discuss this, is james, cnn law enforcement analyst an retired fbi supervisor special agent, jonathan whacker, former secret service agent under president obama. great to have you here. i have a lot of questions actually. what do you make of this news that jason had, which is that this man apparently, according to sources say he made the device at his workplace. that's amazing to me. >> sure. 27-year-old man from brooklyn. not originally, he's a bangladeshi. >> do we know how long he's been...