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There you got a taste of what is now the nastiest senate race in the country. i didn't think we knew it was in arizona till 24 hours ago. let's bring back the panel. mark murray, you and i watched that ad yesterday with carmona. you don't see an ad like that not even every cycle. >> we know arizona is a competitive race. it wasn't two months ago, maybe not two weeks ago. joseph flake has to be worried to drop an ad like this. by far this is the toughest ad i've seen this cycle. >> susan, it does seem as if carmona, when you see this ad, not well known, it's a risky proposition. you can go too ...

0 congressman paul ryan embraced the do no harm strategy. joe for better and worse being joe. >> our adversaries are much more willing tomorrow bra embrace us >> with all due respect, that is malarkey. >> under a romney administer, we will have credibility under this issue. >> vice president biden. >> that's incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place. >> oh, god. >> over 100 can criminal investigations have been launched. >> go ahead. >> martha, look -- >> and at one point the vice president seemed to even hold himself back from actually cursing. >> this is a bunch of stuff...

no mention of big bird but a grover did come up. norquist, that is. and a tight race, could a third guy play spoiler? it's a potential issue and a handful of swing state. we're going to take a deep dive and talk to one of those potential po potential spoilers. good morning again. it's friday, october 12th, 2012. this is the daily rundown. i'm chuck todd. i have ted strickland, ron johnson, congressman from the same party who almost came to blows. that's going to be a little later in the show. let me get to our first reads before i get to the governor who is ready to go. vice presiden...