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Inflation is so high. and the social security payments are paid to that inflation to keep pace with it. so many republicans have worked for many years to try to cut that cost of living, increase, and to cut social security itself. but it doesn't seem to penetrate in these campaigns. >> well, so, one of the real issues in my campaign is that my opponent keeps trying to conceal his position. so, he is on record, on video, saying he would eliminate social security. that position has been confirmed by independent fact-checker's. but he denies it, when asked about it, and he is being backed up by o...

2014 midterm, 85 million people voted in it. that's how much interest in politics has risen over the last decade, to be a level that high, it would have been unthinkable before. and, so it shows this is the ultimate variable. are we at a point in this midterm elections where democrats may get voters motivated who in the past would not have been? maybe they're not wild about biden, maybe they're not wild about the economy, but maybe, there is a -- idea there are voting against republicans, voting against donald trump, maybe that kind of thing, or environment now, where it can drive turnout in a...

Messaging question. they were talking about president obama being the closer and knowing the right way to talk about these issues. is president obama talking about the economy in these closing days of the campaign in a way that tells a story that is true and motivating to democrats? >> he certainly is and he's doing it in a fantastic way. over the summer republicans have been messaging about the economy nonstop. they outspent democrats 5-1. this was an issue but democrats weren't talking about it enough. it's not that we have a good economy or bad economy, it's a complicated one. democrats wer...

I don't feel all that surprised. it seems that what people are saying they care about, and how those numbers breakdown. but thinking about 120 230 million people turning out, already breaking midterm turnout records. i mean, that's -- to me, that's surprising, and that makes it feel unpredictable. >> i remember 2014 very well, because you know, i started the show in 2013. and it was the first election i covered at all in. and there was not a lot of interest. believe me. like, people did not tune in -- >> your way to reach out in the country to -- >> yeah, and you can feel it, right it was hard...

Now the trump has turned republicans against absentee, we know absentee is probably leaning d, and now, the only question is can they get it done that one day? >> that's exactly right. >> i think, too, there was something that both don't pick up when women are deleting their ovulation trackers. they're gonna be like, delete, delete. this is when i'm voting. you know, you're gonna blow -- but it's unknown unknown. >> so, just to be clear, you both think that the importance of abortion as a driver for democratic voters that abortion is being -- >> i don't know. >> it's not showing up in the poll...