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i've never met this person in my life, he said, in 2019 after carol told the story in her book she's not by type, he added a few months later in an interview with the hill. today, during carol's testimony, he called the case a made-up scam he said her lawyer is a political operative and that carol should have produced the dress she was wearing that day joining me now from outside the u.s. district court in new york city is nbc news correspondent ron allen. so ron, some very heavy testimony today. what else did carol say, and how was she -- how was she pushed back how did donald trump...

there's dead can worms and fish all throughout this water. something i just discovered is that if you scrape the creek bed, it's like chemicals coming out of the ground. if you come here, i want to just show this to you. i don't know if you can see this in the camera, but watch this. you can just see that chemical pop out of the creek. this is disgusting. >> remediation of the water in the direct area of the spill is going to the take some time. just as it is taking some time to deal with the dirt. this is not a simple process. we encourage you people to continue to avoid that area. ...

Which is the comparable level that we're at today in peace and prosperity, by the way, was that we bent the spending curve, and we grew the economy. that's still the formula for saving this country from a sovereign debt crisis which would be devastating beyond just the economy. national security, global leadership, our way of life. that's how serious this is. maria: well, this is serious, lance gooden, and you are on the judiciary committee as well watching the administration focus on other things. you said that the department of justice has a credibility problem. tell us why. >> yeah, i do. y...

That. i think there is a lot more that we haven't seen. emergency carter himself has said this is just the tip of the iceberg on some of the information that we're going to be able to get our hands on. once we have that, ask them very tough questions. you can't do that type of activity. the government can't infuriate and influence the outcome of an election in using the government to do that. so, i think the american people deserve answers. and thankfully we have a republican majority that will get sworn in on january 3rd that will do that for the american people. >> todd: congressman, do you ...

To the senate. i think we will see a lot more rhetoric like that going forwa forward. i think the republican argument here is that the evidence does not support impeachment. they're going to continue to make these types of accusations. >> the president knew about the whistleblower before the aide was released. it had come out since the last hearings. we will watch it on the judiciary side. happy thanksgiving. >> a new escalation from north korea. the firing of two unidentified projectiles. we are learning about that at this hour. >> president trump got a strong rebuke from china. signing a bil...