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>> sarah westwood live from the white house. thank you, sarah. let's talk about this now. we have a great panel to discuss this. washington bureau chief for the associated press, julia pace, and olivia newsy. let's start with you. is it the wall, border security? seems like every time we hear from a different person from the white house we get a different interpretation of exactly what they're looking for here. how on earth can they hatch a deal when we don't know what they want? >> what they're trying to do is find a way out to get a deal. if the president is going to hold a hard line and s...

Guarantee you, my iq is much higher than theirs, all right? >> whoo-hoo, i'm a college man. i won't need my high school diploma anymore. >> i'm very highly educated. i know words. i have the best words. >> i am too smart. i am too smart. s-a-r-t. i mean s-m-a-r-t. >> check out the big brain on brad. >> i'll match my iq with all of them. >> he's a genius. >> right. >> he's a genius. >> what's intellectual? i'm smarter than they are. >> i am the smartest man alive! >> perhaps the smartest person ever to run for the presidency. how good is that? trump, trump! >> see, i'm trying humor and i just -...

Let's move away. >> a lack of grace or just not man enough. if he is not going to be graceful, man enough to sit there and have a conversation but he wasn't man enough to do that. >> absolutely not. julia pace, this should be in terms of presidential optics, the easy part. this is about hugs. this is about warmth. this is about being the president coming in, swooping in, and saying that help is on the way. this is about making easy decisions about spending money in an area that is devastated. how is it that he is botching this so badly? >> i have been on countless trips with presidents to plac...

Extraordinary reporting experience i have ever been a part of. >> that says a lot, because you've had some extraordinary reporting experiences in your career. >> i have never experienced anything like this. by the way, that's not a criticism. it's unusual on a number of levels. and the access that we've had this morning into what's going on i've never seen before in something that wasn't an investigation that didn't happen after the fact. this is happening right now. >> i think it's an extraordinary viewing experience as well for our viewers, so let's talk about all of it with our panel. we ha...

>> my hope is now we have time catch our breath and take a look at this carefully, people understand that refew agrugees end up in the united states are the most vetted, scrutinize d, thoroughly investigated individuals that ever arrive on american shores. >> julia pace you see the president's frustration there. there is a pretty tough vetting process. the department of homeland security and the fbi. it's not like the refugees that get on a boat and get to greece or europe. that's the president's policy argument. publicly he's losing. american people say we don't want any refugees. in the hous...