Ignorance. i'm so interested in both of these topics. because it's juneteenth weekend, let's start with the first one. symbolic is important and it is crucial that we recognize these things. but, in fact, we are celebrating juneteenth as a federal holiday in the very same week that there are multiple efforts across this country to take away some of the gains that black people have made since the end of slavery. >> what's remarkable to me, ali, is the day after joe biden signs it into law, there's two headlines in the "washington post." one is about the signing and juneteenth becoming a federal...