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Statement about the don junior e-mail, that goes directly to it. it's important to say that the biggest issue in the mueller investigation was not implicated by any of these revelations today. that's the obstruction of justice matter, about whether the justice headand his inner most aides fired comey with russia on the brain. whether that violated the law, we don't know. we haven't gotten any indcaution from today's events. >> he did that in an interview wither own lester holt. >> we'll pick up that part of the conversation on the other side of the break. ken dilanian, thank you for your aweso...

Whether they were republican or democrat, they will say yes, they interfered in our elections. we know that is the case. the question now is, did donald trump campaign, collude with russia? and we have the don junior e-mail which certainly seems to be the case. and honestly, this is starting to look more and more like watergate. the two things keep coming up. number one is follow the money. number two is what did the president know and when did he know it? and you have a president he who doesn't want to deal with this issue. so now we're going to go into 2018 with not really having gotten to t...

E-mails have been the discovery find of the current generation of investigators. and they are a rich source. so i'm -- i suspect it will be more of this sort of thing. and it's often a little bit of a needle in a hay stack. that may be what this is but it will give investigators some place to go and focus. >> we know from the don junior e-mail that russia wanted trump to win over hillary clinton. so what's the take away from this? >> i think the take away -- >> for steve. >> i think the take away, don, is this is simply another data point on the counterintelligence spectrum of the continuing d...

John podesta was going to spend his time in the barrel and six weeks later the podesta e-mails are leased. we have to understand what all of this means, how they are all connected or maybe they're not connected and it's a thousand coincidences. >> when you say "evidence," do you mean beyond sir coupcircums evidence? >> jake, evidence to me is not a conclusion. evidence has to be tested and developed, corroborated or repudiated. there is circumstantial evidence and there's direct evidence. the don junior e-mail to me made everything quite clear as far as what this constellation of contacts was,...

And his team usually sees them as a success. so he likes to be on the world stage. he likes these parades and all the festivities. so i think it will be a good day for trump. and i think that he'll probably get through those questions quickly with the same defiance that we usually see. >> and he's given us a preview in a way of how he will answer questions about his son don junior's e-mail exchange over this meeting with a russian lawyer. he on one hand said many people would have taken this meeting. also in an interview with reuters said zero coordination, dumbest thing i've ever heard, this ...