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>> this is fantastic. how often do you play? >> every day. >> this is old. >> this was given to me by the mother of my dear friend bill dawson, marge dawson plays with his racket in texas in his senior year, 1938. can you imagine hitting the ball? >> it is such a small thing. you had a ball with it? >> one of the top-ranked american players who just retired has played me with his racket. >> i want to talk -- you are an expert. one of the reasons i wanted to do this is i'm fascinated you succeeded in so many areas, psychology, jury science, television, business. what is the secret?

>> yeah.s >> harvey: this is an old racket. >> this was given to me by the mother of my dear friend, bill dawson. marge dawson played with this racket in texas and her senior year, 1938 in texas. can you imagine hitting the ball with that? >> harvey: wow. it is such a small hat. can you actually hit a ball with that? >> yes, one of the top-rankedst american players who just retired has played me with this racket. >> harvey: did he beat you? >> like a drum. >> harvey: [laughs] okay. i want to talk about room full >> we'll see. >> harvey: one of the reasons is that i that i am fascinated that yo...

>> harvey: well, this is fantastic. how often do you play? >> every day. >> harvey: do you really? >> yeah. >> harvey: this is an old rack at. >> this was givenar to me by the mother of my dear friend, bill dawson. marge dawson played with this racket in texas and her senior year,al 1938 in texas. can you imagine hitting the ball without? >> harvey: wow. it is such a smallfi hat. can you actually hit a ball without? >> yes, one of the top-ranked american players who just retired has played me with this racket. >> harvey: did he beat you? >> like a drum. >> harvey: [laughs] okay. i want to talk...

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