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Personal discretion and take lives and so if they're hiding behind the cloak of any kind of bias, they can use that in making the decisions and judgments that they make and that's really unfortunate. and so again, you know, we need a serious rehaul of our justice system and finding a way that there's a separate system to deal with police officers when there is excessive force involved. i mean, i was just totally troubled and deeply disturbed, you know, that this happened. when we had the equivalent of body cameras, the video, it's on tape, and justs the humanity of this gentleman who says, i c...

About the fallout from what's going on in new york as well as ferguson, missouri. listen to this. >> when it comes, as we've seen unfortunately in recent days, to our criminal justice system, too many americans feel deep unfairness when it comes to the gap between our professed ideals and how laws are applied on a day-to-day basis. beyond the specific issue that has to be addressed making sure that people have confidence, that police and law enforcement and prosecutors are serving everybody equally, there's the larger question of restoring a sense of common purpose. >> the attorney general, er...

Toward diversifying that department there in ferguson itself. >> debi rose, give me a final thought right now as we await the mayor, you still have confidence in the system here in the united states, the legal system, the justice system? >> i believe that the justice system was set up with a purpose of establishing equality and justice for all. i think the system is broken when it comes to certain communities and that we need to now indulge in getting accountability to be what is -- to hold them to the fire. we need accountability. we need for the police department to recognize that they need ...

Beating on somebody. this is a group of officers who are trying to take a large human being into custody who just doesn't want to comply. >> the big problem here, lori, and you've studied this from various angles, is that a lot of people in the united states are losing confidence in the entire legal system, the justice system, in the country. they think it's unfair to which you say? >> well, that's the biggest problem, because frankly, as was said before, we need our police, but we need them to do their job right. and part of that is seeing people for who they are as opposed to the color of th...

Order and justice? one for blacks, one for whites? >> you know, wolf, when i was a police officer, six years in cook county, illinois, spent probably three to five days minimum a month in the cook county court system and i saw we had a des part justice system, it wasn't white and black, it was rich and poor. we knew as police officers, my fellow officers and i would talk and they came into court and had a high priced attorney white or black they would get much less severe treatment or sentencing or no sentencing at all and the people that had to rely on the public defender's office, which was ...