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Five aircraft that happened to be on the ground. we had actually 20 aircraft in support rolls in the air. c-17s on stand by in case anything went wrong. the plan leading up was fairly detailed and complicated. but you do that so that the execution can go as smoothly as it did that night. bill: kabul fell august 15th, a sunday as you know. our marines and soldiers and navy corpsmen were blown up on the 19th. were you on the airport on and around that day or did you come later? we were there. we were there from the beginning. we had by the time it was over 80 c-17s were committed to evacuation operations. many of us were there at that time. i happened to be in kabul that ....