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Crime bill that biden helped write. he boasted of the role to get crime bills passed. >> every major crime bill since 1976 that's come out of this congress, every minor crime bill has had the name of the democratic senator from the state of delaware joe biden. >> reporter: he sought to reject the notion that democrats were soft on crime. >> when i was running in 1972 said law and order the mantra is law and order with justice. whatever that meant. i'd say lock the s.o.b.s up. >> reporter: now nearly 30 years later he is forced to confront the positions. >> this idea that it generated mass ins ...

Struggles during the '80s and 90s for folks coming out in the multicultural era, the hip-hop era, was to be represented, and now we're represented really at the highest levels of the global economy. but if you're buying these headphones thinking we're going to get to more of that post racial america, maybe we might have to rethink that a little bit. transactional exchanges are shallow. i give you money. you give me headphones. are we really having a conversation yet? and the interesting thing is on the one hand, the images we see are more segregated than ever. the fact that apple has to borrow...

Ration, policing, sentencing. there's much more segregation of black and latino students and much more racial igslation sola white students than we have seen in decades. >> khalil, here's my one question. on one hand jeff is pointing to the transactional problem. but on the other hand, one of the thing es we talk about is to assign african-american texts on syllabi to engage with the art and cultural world of people of color and of people around the world. talk to me about the difference between our concern about the transactional versus the engagement with culture. >> it's a great point. cult...

Detain their loved ones, friends, neighbors, how much does that rupture the possibility of what we want an america to this be. >> this is one of the largest massive kars ration movements in our country's history. we're going after the most vulnerable. the any knowledges who don't have a vote or deep pockets for individuals to represent them. your story of cynthia, she's experiencing what tens of thousands of american children are also facing. when we say people are getting lost in the system, it's not individuals who have been swept up because they're undocumented or don't have the right docum...