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Committee. she's testifying. you see it -- well, i just talked about barr. >> yeah. >> i mean there's nobody i was more disgusted by, a man of the law acting the way that he did during the trump administration. it is fascinating to see where they all drew their lines. >> yeah. >> and there is no doubt that at some point barr checked out. said, "enough" and started pushing back on trump and let's be really blunt here, started pushing back on trump at the time we needed to do it. as a country we needed him to do it the most as a country when actually a peaceful transfer of power was on the line....

Him and would support his arguments about the larger russia investigation. barr put his foot down. i think barr may have saved the tenure of gina haskell as cia director by intervening in a significant way. on a larger story of what we've been learning in the last several days, i think jonathan put it well, what struck me is the committee in the house and the justice department from what we know seemed to be building the case for a conspiracy prosecution against higher up people involved in january 6th and the whole effort to overturn the election. that's what i see. it is systematic, piece by...

Saying that he wanted crowds, crowds akin to those on january 6th to protest in cities where there are investigations into him, suggesting if they were illegal that they should indeed mass, which only can be interpreted as a sign of intimidation which comes after he floated pardons for the january 6th rioters, i.e. saying, hey, you go to these cities and riot on my behalf, well, if i'm elected i could pardon you again. >> you know, david ignatius, i'm looking at barr's role in all of this. he is a fascinating character, fascinating story line. he was a guy who was basically tapped by official ...

Can't? you know, we had a president who wanted to deploy the u.s. military illegally to, quote, crack the skulls of peaceful protesters in the streets of america. >> yeah. listen, elie, the former president barack obama is talking about future elections and attempts to overturn them. he is sounding the alarm, saying, you know, what's going to happen. what do you think could happen in 2024, 2022, and beyond if, you know, these laws that are in 22 states -- excuse me, these 22 sets of laws that have been enacted in states where legislatures can overturn the election or give it to whatever candid...

>> why didn't he do it when he had a bigger megaphone, and now it's over. john, barr first finally admitted there was no widespread election fraud right before he resigned. after that, jon karl yelled at barr, saying "you must hate trump," referring to himself in the third person. trump didn't understand what an actual attorney general was and barr certainly obliged. >> of course. he saw the attorney general as his own personal lawyer, the justice department as his own team of hatchet men, as elie says, the military as "my generals." what you see, and how history will record this, we had a mad...