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states can't completely take away but we'll allow it to pull so far back that it's essentially almost the same. what we did not hear enough about because justices were not asking about it, not because it was not in the lawyer's briefs. 75,000 women get abortions after 15 weeks. that's a lot of women. what casey said was you can't create a burden. 75,000 who may die because you have 6% of women die carrying a child to term, 1% because of abortion. you are putting women's lives on the line. >> mika? >> katelyn flanagan is out with a piece in the "atlantic" entitled "dishonesty of the
>> yes! >> are you so entertained? >> yes, i am so entertained. >> we need to watch "gladiator" for thanksgiving. >> no, we need to go outside and get exercised. >> this hour we'll continue to bring you some of the most memoriable. none more remarkable than this instant classic. our next guest written everything on adolescence to feminism to motherhood. some of her most moving pieces hit close to home describing her own battle with cancer. we are talking about the atlantic katelyn flanagan whose work we have been following for years. >> hey, it's a great honor to
which god knows and you caused it and therefore you deserved it and therefore you need to think your way out of it. and, it's a terrible thing and it's as cool thing to say to somebody and it's completely untrue. cancer is nothing more than some self-dividing in a malignant way. there is nothing more than that. >> and we have more from my conversation with the atlantic katelyn flanagan. wow, what a great guest. >> amazing. >> she's just amazing. we'll be right back. she's just. we'll be right back. ovens that flip up and away, grills that bring outdoor flavors indoors, and blenders that spin up healthy eating. ninja foodi, be proud of what you make.
of what's happening and they need to know who's going to take care of them as long as a crisis lasts. your heart is breaking but theirs may not be. they don't know the script and my josh, that could apply to so much, cancer, divorce, a loss job, so many different things. >> covid. >> different realities with covid. yeah, they don't see it as a heartbreaking thing, all they see is oh, mom and dad and maybe in separate household and together -- they have a plan for this. they know what to do about this. that's the stability they need. >> wait, there is more. up next, the conclusion of joe's touching conversation with the atlantic's katelyn flanagan, that's straight ahead on "morning joe." flanagan, that's straight ahead on "morning joe."
have katelyn flanagan with us. i think perhaps the greatest writer of the english language since shakespeare. thank you so much for being with us, katelyn, i appreciate it. >> after that sort of grumbling introduction, i don't know if i want to stay around but i guess i have to now a i am committed. thank you. that was extremely a nice thing to say. >> you have to because we need to talk about what we both share and that's addiction to twitter. rarely does he let you get close to it. i notice that you are on twitter right now. what's the status social media you called a pair site that
want and you can have total freedom, you can write about women's things and i always kept my eyes on joan. >> that was joe's conversation with the award winning writer katelyn flanagan. >> our next guest was once described as no one's ally. the conversation with the writer andrew sullivan, that discussion is straight ahead on "morning joe." t discussion is straight ahead on "morning joe.
you don't have a very good chance of surviving unless you develop a positive attitude. i remember my first two months going through heavy chemo, i got in despair over it because people keep on sending us these, they thought it would be helpful, they sent these books saying you must do this and do this. i was not upbeat before i got cancer and this has not lifted that crappy mood. i finally i was really lucky at ucla at one of a few places that had a sensor of dealing the emotional consequences of cancer and runs by a psychologist and i said i am so afraid because i can't get a positive attitude. she says katelyn, there is not a