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With all of that. Anderson, one thing we should also note, and its something you just mentioned a short while ago, that is that one of the reasons why Christine Blasey fords legal team is canceling some of these interviews that they had set up is that they wanted to show some good faith to the other side and according to this source that was a welcome sign. It signaled to them that theres sort of a commitment there to get this done. And according to this source, in the words of this source, we want to work this out. Anderson, one other interesting prospect in all of this that i think really ne...

Emotion. they want revenge for merritt garland. their hiding behind we want the truth. it's raw politics. they want to open it up for two years because that's what they think they need to do to get revenge for merritt garland. >> governor, is he wrong? >> yes. it's so warped. >> how is it warped? we know folks wanted revenge. >> let me say if you're worried about some delay then put an end time on the delay, on the investigation. say to the fbi, you have seven days. put everything you have into it. look into these investigations. you're not going to hear from this woman because they have one h...

That the staffs of the committees are doing their own internal investigations. the outside groups are doing investigations. they're digging as hard as they can to find whatever they can. and i would presume that if the democrats do their own questioning there will be -- they will have their own information that they will then ask judge kavanaugh about. so what i think we would see coming out of this hearing would be sort of information that people have culled while we've been waiting for this to get started without really an official fbi investigation, which is what they should have had in the...

I also have to admit that this stuff about talking about the optics. we should be talking about getting to the truth. >> right. i totally agree with you. but you've also got to presume that the staffs of the committees are doing their own internal investigations. the outside groups are doing investigations. they're digging as hard as they can to find whatever they can. and i would presume that if the democrats do their own questioning there will be -- they will have their own information that they will then ask judge kavanaugh about. so what i think we would see coming out of this hearing woul...

Able to talk to judge kavanaugh about, to get very important information about his views. >> heiarry, good to talk to youa former u.s. attorney and former deputy assistant attorney general under the clinton administration. up next, reports that the white house is preparing for defense secretary jim mattis' resignation, expected by many insiders to happen within the coming months. there's already a short list of possible successors in the works, from a retired army general to some sitting senators. we'll tell you who's on the list. plus, more on the life of actor burt reynold who is died to...