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Cut judge kavanaugh loose. they don't know. this is a moving situation but the outlook now is fairly grim. >> we also might be about to witness a collision and perhaps an inability to read the room. you have kavanaugh getting almost publicly pressured by the president to be hotter on camera. to be -- to ad lib more, get off his talking points. if he comes into this room hotter after an emotional, very organic morning of testimony by this woman with nothing to gain by making this flight from california and doing this, this could really be off balance. >> that's sump a smart point. that's one of...

This presumption of innocence is, of course, appropriate in a criminal justice proceeding but this is the court of public opinion. a cultural moment changed forever by the me too movement and this is a man in president trump accused by more than a dozen women. >> he has self-interest wrapped up in kavanaugh being excused from these claims because so many claims have been raised against the president himself. they've never been fully investigated. he, i think, becomes more vulnerable if kavanaugh's nomination has to be rescinded. >> and i picked up the beginnings of this conversation about when...

At the behest of the white house. that lies with the president. he doesn't want to do it. phil, why does he not want to do it? >> well, he may not want to see what the fbi finds. he's not really been clear about why he doesn't want to do it. you're correct in he has the power to authorize the fbi to do that investigation and he's unwilling to exercise that power. the president's been pretty careful this week in how he's addressed this matter. he's clearly standing by kavanaugh. he says he feels sorry for him and he shouldn't have to go through this because he's an incredible man. trump doesn't...