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Of the things that we're looking at is there is a lot of energy on the democratic side, it seems like, around the idea of the russian investigation. i want to ask you specifically, the president calling it tremendo treasonous. >> no, the justice department had every reason to question the president's allegiances to russia. parodying the russian talking points, taking meeting at trump tower. standing at a press e press conference saying keep hacking. this campaign chairman meeting with a russian officer two days to share polling data. there is a lot of reasons to wonder why the president's loya...

The crucial juncture, carter page goes to moscow, you get wikileaks releasing the hacked dnc e-mails which is the first alarm bell. you get trump's telling russia keep hacking, three days later ohr meets with christopher steele and the next day fbi opens up what would become the mueller investigation, ultimately, not because of ohr and steele, ohr doesn't tell anyone, but because of the tip from the australian diplomat who has george papadopoulos running around europe saying the russians have hillary's e-mails. >> that's right. the time line of that ohr meeting is coincidental. christopher ste...

That's why he wrote the dossier, that's why he took it to the fbi. to tell you the truth, he's more of a patriot than most people i've seen in the republican party. >> the timeline here is interesting, matt. you've got -- this is right at the crucial juncture, carter page goes to moscow, you get wikileaks releasing the hacked dnc e-mails which is the first alarm bell. you get trump's telling russia keep hacking, three days later ohr meets with christopher steele and the next day fbi opens up what would become the mueller investigation, ultimately, not because of ohr and steele, ohr doesn't tel...