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Circus coming into town and i think we have to -- to me the test is whether any of these things are worth it, is whether we get what the agreement says complete and verifiable denuclearization and we won't know that for ale. pa: in that sense, mary, we are betting on donald trump being right as he assesses the intentions of kim jong un. >> yes, that's right, a correction to bill, it didn't say complete verifiable irreversible. it just said complete, mike pompeo said, all the other things are in there, trust us. i think it's positive that the president is keeping pressures on. the thing that wo...

Lot of noise, it's like the circus coming into town and i think we have to -- to me the test is whether any of these things are worth it, is whether we get what the agreement says complete and verifiable denuclearization and we won't know that for a while. paul: in that sense, mary, we are betting on donald trump being right as he assesses the intentions of kim jong un. >> yes, that's right, a correction to bill, it didn't say complete verifiable irreversible. it just said complete, mike pompeo said, all the other things are in there, trust us. i think it's positive that the president is keepi...