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Circus coming into town and i think we have to -- to me the test is whether any of these things are worth it, is whether we get what the agreement says complete and verifiable denuclearization and we won't know that for ale. pa: in that sense, mary, we are betting on donald trump being right as he assesses the intentions of kim jong un. >> yes, that's right, a correction to bill, it didn't say complete verifiable irreversible. it just said complete, mike pompeo said, all the other things are in there, trust us. i think it's positive that the president is keeping pressures on. the thing that wo...

Lot of noise, it's like the circus coming into town and i think we have to -- to me the test is whether any of these things are worth it, is whether we get what the agreement says complete and verifiable denuclearization and we won't know that for a while. paul: in that sense, mary, we are betting on donald trump being right as he assesses the intentions of kim jong un. >> yes, that's right, a correction to bill, it didn't say complete verifiable irreversible. it just said complete, mike pompeo said, all the other things are in there, trust us. i think it's positive that the president is keepi...

North korea and iran's capabilities were not even close to being as far developed as north korea's are. to me, if we don't see out of himself pompeo have said sident that nothing short of denuclearization will suffice. as you've been pointing out on your show tonight, kim has already received a win. ita huge win for him to be on parity. >> they wanted this for generations. >> they've been wanting it forever. so if we don't walk out with this statement, with the joint statement saying that korea is committed to denuclearization with steps either in a process, maybe it's by the end of trump's fi...