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Russians. now we saw him the other day, and those pictures are killers. him hanging out with kislyak like he's his best friend. they go chuckle ago way, the these of them. he and of course lavrov, like they're keeping secrets from the american press and they're in on this thing together. it looks like a cabal. it just looks like that. i wouldn't want it to look that way if there's been questions now for months about is there a cabal. now these guys make it look like one. now they end up saying it turns out the conversations were so intimate they they were sharing masad information with the rus...

There. it's never as fast as anybody would like. >> you talked about how you can never keep secrets forever. you think there are people input's orbit who are keeping secrets from the senate intelligence committee at this moment? >> we haven't started to interview those people yet, so i can't say they're keeping anything. some of them have actually talked about coming forward but i think with general flynn for example, he talked about coming forward voluntarily if he could get immunity and i don't think that's likely, at least not from our committee. that's one of the complications is we're con...

We have nine staff people working on this. they are members of the regular committee staff but they're essentially detailed to this project. they're spending nights and weekends at the cia, working on it virtually 24 hours a day. i'm satisfied we're making sufficient progress. everyone would like it to go faster. i would rathver it be right than fast, nicole. i think we're going to have to beef up the staff, perhaps bring on some prosecutorial experience, make sure we're asking the right questions when we get to the witness stage. but right now we have unprecedented access to the documents, we...

I want the answers. who doesn't want us to have the answers? that's a position that is much harder to take. keeping secrets. >> so this is how it's playing out politically tonight. we also have a full front of this waiting for our discussion, and that is national security, the military. with us tonight msnbc military analyst retired four-star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey, west point class of '64, combat vietnam, three purple hearts two, silver star, two dscs. he was inducted into the army ranger hall of fame and served as drug czar in the clinton administration. here with us in new york, ...

I want you to have the answers. i want the answers. who doesn't want us to have the answers? that's a position that is much harder to take. keeping secrets. >> so this is how it's playing out politically tonight. we also have a full front of this waiting for our discussion, and that is national security, the military. with us tonight msnbc military analyst retired four-star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey, west point class of '64, combat vietnam, three purple hearts two, silver star, two dscs. he was inducted into the army ranger hall of fame and served as drug czar in the clinton administra...