demagogs are popular. the george wallace reference might be over the top, but there is some element of truth to it. maybe william jennings brian might have been a better example or huey long might have been a better example. i think there is a strain of a very angry, populist, not traditionally conservative i don t know, thing happening with donald trump out there. but having said that, you do have to recognize, this is a real phenomena, and he has tapped into something, and there are a lot of americans around the country saying, finally, someone is saying this. and the fact that he s willing to say things nobody else wants to say, he s politically incorrect again, how many times have we written him off, you know, the mccain gap that was supposed to end. just for the record, i haven t written him off and have been scolding the media for saying this. look, the liberal media, kelly, the huffington post saying
at african-american sites, people are saying she handled herself well, including in my own family. this was actually a win for her. okay. gotta go, kelly goff, matt lewis. next on #mediabuzz, a huge debate over new york times expose about amazon s hyper competitive culture. is it as heartless as the paper contends?
she s you know what, she ain t bill clinton. she doesn t have a fraction of his charisma-like ability. and that s really what this is. maybe it s a roar shock test. i think she came across as hostile, i think she was pointing, which is always a horrible optics when you re pointing at people. i think she came across horrible. but look can i jump in? i m sorry. go ahead, kelly. but if you re going to jump in, i want to move along because we re short on time. okay. why have the media not been more critical of this group, which i m not saying it doesn t have the right to protest, i m not saying there aren t legitimate issues about law enforcement. but when you stop candidates from speaking, i m a free speech guy. why shutting people down from speaking? i believe, david duke has a right to give a speech, uninterrupted, even though everything he says in the speech is something i disagree with. you and i are in agreement there, howie. what i was going to say back to matt, firs
the protest group black lives matter has been disrupting the rallies of democratic candidates and after hillary clinton met privately with the group, a video of the encounter was leaked to the media. what i mean to say is that this is and has always been a problem of violence. it s not there s there s not much that we can do to stop the violence against us. respectfully, if that is your position, then i will talk only to white people about how we are going to deal with the very real problem. that s not what i mean. what i m saying is, you what you just said was a form of victim blaming. you re saying that what the black lives matter movement needs to do to change white hearts no, i m talking about look, i don t believe you change hearts. i believe you change laws, you change allocation of resources, you change the way systems operate. kelly goff, some conservative media outlets saying that was not a great moment for hillary clinton. but new york times news
find anyone else of reasonable mind shares. with the cnn poll showing trump trailing hillary by six points in a hypothetical match-up, are some pundits finally taking the donald seriously? joining us from scottsdale, arizona, matt lewis, senior contributor. and kelly governor, a columnist for the daily beast. trump s immigration plan, you may not like it, the new york times ripping it, once again, the media have to recognize, he is touching a deep nerve. absolutely, howie. look, i think the press, the media still think he s a clown. the difference is now we think he s a clown who very well could be the republican nominee. that is quite a sea change. kelly goff, trump told abc s george stephanopoulos today, when pressed about how are you going to implement this mass deporeration you talk about, how much will it cost, he just kept saying, it s called management. and you get great people.