the protest group black lives matter has been disrupting the rallies of democratic candidates and after hillary clinton met privately with the group, a video of the encounter was leaked to the media. >> what i mean to say is that this is and has always been a problem of violence. it's not -- there's -- there's not much that we can do to stop the violence against us. >> respectfully, if that is your position, then i will talk only to white people about how we are going to deal with the very real problem. >> that's not what i mean. what i'm saying is, you -- what you just said was a form of victim blaming. you're saying that what the black lives matter movement needs to do to change white hearts -- >> no, i'm talking about -- look, i don't believe you change hearts. i believe you change laws, you change allocation of resources, you change the way systems operate. >> kelly goff, some conservative media outlets saying that was not a great moment for hillary clinton. but "new york times" news