The core of the trial. mr. slagr's life also hangs in the balance when you look up to potentially 30 years in prison. you see this in a lot of trials. you see jurors struggling with that, taking their role seriously, looking at the evidence, debating each other and in this case, an 11-1 means that one person, obviously, has strong views and is standing up to the rest of them for the reasons they have reached. the other point that i would note, again, given what we have, which is not the whole story yet. >> right. >> is the foreperson referred to this person whose letter i just quoted is having...