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Significant obsolete in american histo history. >> well said, mark. lets talk about your impressions. i want to find out from you, do you remember the first time you saw or heard about? >> i met muhammad ali when i was 13 years old for the first time i was in awe, we went to watch ali's fight and frazier and norton and in new orleans and new orleans in 1958. i had the opportunity to be there. last time i did see muhammad ali for the martin luther king's memorial in dc. i was in awe of him and i look up to him. for so many because he was a hero and he's a tremendous athlete who wants to beat it...

Willed suspects. and he 19aekts cob verted to suffaro is almost and more tol are rant especially jup jup. >> you showed him your box moves. april 1999. who remembers? i do. and he and his phraster. howard bingam. and i started to do my prancing and the ali shuffle and i can turn out the lights can be in bed when it was dark. >> it was a thrilling thing for me. and i've reet counted i got it

Charitable contribution to muhammad ali by allowing him to fight for my title. >> the match was called rumble in the jungle. >> was being offered $5 million to fight muhammad ali. i was fighting in africa to getmy money and go home. >> but the locals fell hard for ali, and ali seen here in "when we were kings," loved every minute of it. >> ali, ali. >> he loved people, and i think that's why they loved him so much. >> 18-year-old veronica was hired as a poster girl to promote the fight. >> we were told at the last minute we could go. >> whelp did you start to get butterflies? >> we used to wal...

Muhammad ali before you actually went into the ring with him but then you became a great friend. what impressed you most about how he was able to be a showman but then he was able to deliver once he got out of the ring because he talked a lot of smack that intimidated and angered a lot but he delivered. >> it's so strange because there are so many people about muhammad ali said "i was angry with him." we never were in a press conference together. there was never any face-to-face confrontation. when i met him in the ring, that's all we had going for us that night in the ring. there was no putti...

Ali, so i thought this would be the easiest $5 million i was going to pick up. got into the ring muhammad, beat him up for the first three round and i knew i was going to knock him out. i hit him hard in the third round and he looked at me as if to say i'm not going to take this! and he said no way he's going to slug it out with me and i whaled on him. then the bell rang and he looked at me as if to say i made it! and i thought oh, my god, he made it and i knew i was in trouble then and the water had just gotten deep. and then around the sixth, seventh round he started whispering "is that all ...