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Workmen level saying they had misgivings. another point that was made, i got a lot of respect for the former a.g. and he says, well, bill barr only wanted to go after leak investigations in general. he may not recall these specific ones. i just believe that knowing barr, if he had a good explanation for what was going on, he would offer it. and the only time he's gone to this i don't recall device was in political sticky situation where is he wanted to separate himself, whether or not trump asked him to investigate and he used it one other time, i think. wouldn't he be doing better than i can'...

Be investigating things that related to the president. so it's indicative of the fact that mr. barr worked with a staff close to himself. we'll find out more from the inspector general about what career people might have done. but i think you'll find that there were senior career people who might have advised in cases like this who were never contacted at all. >> that's an interesting point. people being kept out of the circle in addition to people who were in the circle on the workmen level saying they had misgivings. another point that was made, i got a lot of respect for the former a.g. and...