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Target, someone in the scope of an investigation and likely to be charged, i expect they would leave him for the very end. you don't tend to talk to targets early in the investigation. under very rare schisms you put a target in the grand jury. or to invite a target to the grand jury. you leave targets until the end. you can talk to other people about other targets. to me he has not been mentioned in court pleadings or to our knowledge interviewed or to our knowled knowledge. he is suggested to maybe be a target. he has criminal exposure. he is not mentioned in a favorable way down the road. >...

Punishment? >> well, there are a lot of intelligence information available through the u.s., through turkey, through our allies. we have the capacity to get a better understanding as to what exactly happened and the accountability of the leadership in saudi arabia. we need to do our own independent investigation. we need to do that with sanctions. >> melissa: do you think that's already going on, sir? don't you think that's already going on? don't you think we have people trying to figure out what's happening? >> absolutely. i have a lot of confidence in our intelligence community. they haven'...

And technology to keep their voter rolls up to date. i think the rolls for the 2016 election were probably the most ak ralt list we've ever had and they'll get better. >> when trump/spicer says the president believes there's been massive voter fraud based on studies and evidence, that's what the phrase that's been presented to him, to your knowled knowledge, are there any studies or evidence that points to any kind of large scale voter fraud? >> i don't know of any evidence. i was at pew and ran the elections team there. i was there eight years, i was a lawyer in the justice department in the ...

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With some witnesses on the scene. >> in between the radio and television building. >> the absolutely cacophony of sound that we're getting, i'm certainly getting in my ear piece here. can you break it down for me? on any other day, i would almost say it sounds like fireworks in the background. the cheering people and explosions. what is it, to the best of your knowled knowledge? >> well, what i am definitely seeing right now, and unfortunately, the camera is not showing you this, but hold on one second, i'll get the camera to pan -- i'm going to have the camera pan. okay. in between us, in bet...