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Satisfied for a prosecution. obviously, this is hypothetical and something for mueller to take up. we know mueller is aware this was afoot in june. what would make the removal of the special counsel by the president a crime. he can remove a special counsel. there's a process. the attorney general has to do it but the president could instruct the attorney general to do so but are there circumstances where that would be wrong or illegal? >> chris, thanks for having me back. yes, there are circumstances where the removal of a special counsel could itself constitute obstruction. you look at the in...

The president moved on jim comey and raised other suspicions that they need add special counsel and sure enough there was one. if the timing is not just coincident coincidental, is that enough, certainly not on its own because he didn't fire him. would it be intent of something that could satisfy any criminal stand? >> i do think we're moving toward having sufficient evidence to satisfy the obstruction. like you, i'm not happy to hear it. i'm still not ready to say there was obstruction. that's why bob mueller has to sit across the table from the president and look into his eyes and listen to ...

Instructing the investigation -- really obstruction is a lot more about witness tampering and changing evidence and withholding evidence. >> krcorrupt intent, that he wa trying to do something to stop the administration of justice with corrupt intent. >> but rejecting the advice of mark kas wits -- >> we don't know that's what happened. we do not know that is in fact what happened, congressman. >> we don't know that's not what happened. >> i think it's real rich you're trying to absolve the president -- >> look, there are open questions -- in the new york times, there are open questions but do...

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