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Way he is targeting this state's homeless problem as if there is nothing else nationally is fascinating to watch. >> also, if you just look at the homeless populations, new york -- i think the last number -- the last numbers that there were national numbers, new york is the largest, l.a. is second, seattle, i think is third. although i think there's been an 8% drop over last year. there's obviously, san francisco is -- there's a huge issue on the west coast, but it is a nationwide issue. and it's not something -- there is no easy solution to this. >> no, and to your point, it certainly is righ...

Homeless problem as if there is nothing else nationally is fascinating to watch. >> also, if you just look at the homeless populations, new york -- i think the last number -- the last numbers that there were national numbers, new york is the largest, l.a. is second, seattle, i think is third. although i think there's been an 8% drop over last year. there's obviously, san francisco is -- there's a huge issue on the west coast, but it is a nationwide issue. and it's not something -- there is no easy solution to this. >> no, and to your point, it certainly is right at home for the president in hi...