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Republican on the hill you want to be holding the bag on this investigation. i think if we're entering a criminal realm, they will be happy to take a backseat and let the fbi pursue this. it is a criminal matter. congress can't do anything about criminal matters. all they can do is make a recommendation, say what happened. i can see them very easily sitting back and saying, we're going to let mueller handle this, we'll talk later. that's the most politically safe thing to do. i'm not lahappy about it, but ii had to make a prediction what would happen, that's it. >> don't go anywhere. stay with...

Is even a remote possibility here. treason involves times of war. this is not, under any circumstances, treason. however, there are campaign finance laws which do potentially carry criminal penalties which say it is illegal to solicit or receive government in a campaign.foreign that usually applies to money. >> yeah. >> but if the thing of value is intelligence, hacked e-mails, that potentially could be a crime. it's not something that i'm aware has ever been prosecuted as anything other than money, but it is something that i'm sure investigators will want to look at. >> and soliciting, it doe...

Systems and free economic systems are something that work and advantage human beings and create opportunities and new products and innovation. you know, people from time to time fuss because it's kind of fun to fuss at the big guy, and we happen to have a prominent position in the world. but when i travel around the world, i find that people are interested in the united states, concerned about what it's doing, where it's going, how it's doing it. >> so then how do you describe what vladimir putin is doing or not doing now vis-a-vis the united states? >> well, i think it's kind of like economic...

He wants to have this meeting because he's worried about possible nuclear action from north korea and he needs the philippines' help to stop that. do you buy that argument? >> no, i don't. the philippines plays precisely zero role in our strategy vis-a-vis north korea. we have had historic ties with the feila peens and we have had troops there, but with the new government it's been a different story and they are actually moving closer to china, moving away from the united states. i think this was the wrong signal at the wrong time. >> what the philippines does boast is beautiful, big trump tow...

Does he mean? >> i watched your live coverage of the event. and i -- i wasn't on tv but i was watching and i wrote down the very same thing. very good shape, what is he talking about? that certainly isn't how most people describe where we are vis-a-vis north korea. what does he mean? that's the million dollar question that takes more than the hour that we have here. i think the debate that's underway in the press and in private is whether there is a strategy. and there was a "new york times" story, the conversation i first heard it take place on your broadcast monday night with michael crowley...