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Years, fried most democracy, did the best we could. i say this because gerald ford that ladder in saigon embassy was seen as a symbol of failure. but the grooi guy that ran a grocery chain in michigan brought that ladder back to the united states and now in gerald ford's presidential library and vietnamese from houston and new orleans, ones that were evacuated out go to that ladder and see that lad der as a symbol of hope. maybe that cargo plane will be a symbol that america doesn't leave its friends behind and we did our best to promote democracy. >> the president said he was the one making t...

Digital politics editor. chris, considering that's happened in the middle east over the last several weeks, has that served as a reality check to maybe promote compromise in d.c.? or has it done just the opposite and moved the sides further apart? >> yeah, i think you're probably closer on the lad der -- latter one, jenna. you need to come down here so you can be reminded of just how deep the divisions are. jenna: is that an official invitation, cries? >> we absolutely need you here. you have to see how terrible it can be on capitol hill so that you know that even a war or, as the white house ...