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What to do with the 29 other children who are over the age of 5 and have yet to be reunited. we have been through a big struggle just getting these reunited. >> the government had said in the past, rather vehemently, that they knew where all the families were, they were keeping track of this. is this just another example of them lying or were they not aware of what sort of records they had? >> katie, i have just been amazed by how complicated this is. they actually found they had 3,000 separated children, because they interviewed the children to find that they had been separated. it's not like...

Studies at the brookings institute. he's also an msnbc legal analyst. guy, what's going on with the back and forth with lanny katie watching this closely a seismic shift. truly a seismic shift from where cohen was a few months ago to where he is and what his thoughts are now. i mean, think about it. this was the guy, this was a tough lawyer, a fast ball to the head lawyer litigator who came in and said what, i would take a bullet for the president of the united states. there was no mention of cooperation. there was no indication that he was going to roll over and start cooperating with mueller...

At the time i left in 2004, about 93%, 94% of all criminal defendants resolved their case in a plea and virtually all of those with some element of cooperation. so think about that. add to the mix, katie, that to get a search warrant, which is what happened here. to get a search warrant for a lawyer's office and a lawyer's home, definitely not a mickey mouse kind of thing. you had to go through all kind of hoops to establish that you basically had the guy dead to rights. so they definitely got a case on michael cohen. the only question in my mind is when they're going to announce the plea agre...