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They are not in place. we are flying by the seat of our pants. we hope they can get this oil shut off today. frankly, it is time for congress to step up and address this energy problem we have. it is not just about making platforms safer. it is about moving to a safe energy platform for america. >> you talked about what's going on below the surface, larry. let's get back up to the surface. the most visible part of these oil spills is when the oil comes ashore if and such a sensitive and environmental and he cecolol area. we have seen some booms spread across in front of the chandeleur islands....

These areas that you are describing. there are many areas that are unprotected by booms, and, in fact, some of the booms were not placed in the right locations. all this should have been preplanned. we can only hope we will find booms and get them out in time to save the sensitive wetlands of this country. this has been degraded largely by oil development and other practices. it needs to be protected now against a large oil mass. >> larry swiger of the national wildlife federation, good to talk to you. good luck with the work that you are doing there trying to save the wildlife. >> thank you. ...

♪ 13 minutes after the hour. the coast guard is confirming what everyone has been fearing. crude oil has gun sustaining the sensitive shoreline of the gulf coast. here is what it looks like from above. ruptured well has dumped and estimated 4 million gals of oil into the ocean so far. take a look at this. we put a camera under the water in a slick off the coast of mississippi off the chandeleur islands. crews are using controlled burns to get rid of some of the floating oil before it wash washes ashore. larry is the president and ceo of the national wildlife federation in venice, louisiana...

>> tuna. >> i'm really jealous that i'm not on it. and i hope it goes well. >> you should stay around and come with us. >> maybe if i quit my job and don't have other responsibilities, if i show up tomorrow i've been fired but i'm happy to be with you. >> thanks. it's been a pleasure. >> the environmental damage inflicted on the gulf of mexico is not just to the fishing industry, this oil spill could change everything about the ocean right behind me here. larry swiger joins us next. we're live in venice, louisiana. please do stay with us. national car rental?