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>> i find the claim preposterous and it deserves more discussion. who told jay carney that the discussions were about charitable, his charitable work? this is a guy who had, as you mentioned had four meetings in days leading up to the approval of the loan. the first approval of this loan of its kind. it was clearly expedited. we now know that steven chu was pushing hard to have it accelerated. >> bret: energy secretary. >> they boasted about rushing it through. vice president biden throws up at a ground breaking via satellite. chu is there in person. we know the discussion were taking place at...

Understanding why they were able, why was jay carney making that claim? i don't think jay carney goes out as a matter of process and lies to the american people. who told him those were charitable meetings? >> bret: a.b., talk about the impact of all of this. look at the polls here, we asked a question do you think this loan to solyndra is either unethical behavior or good faith loan that went bad? it's 46-46. but you dig in, the republicans think 75%, something unethical happened. 51% of independents say it involved unethical behavior. how big of a deal is this? how far do you think it can go...

Shut the door from folks from iowa who are coming to trenten to meet with him later this month. >> what about jon huntsman. there is a report he'll open his campaign headquarters in orlando, florida, his wife's home, but florida, florida, florida, is such a critical state. >> it sure is. not just in the general election this time around. florida republicans have -- are determined to go fifth in the primary process. so for a candidate like huntsman, who does very, very well in new hampshire, scoring another win in florida, it is sort of a critical part of that strategy. that's a big part of the...

Trump logo. we contacted trump's organization for comment but calls were not returned. but the u.s. business and industry council defended trump, saying don't blame him, blame the system. >> when washington decided in the early and mid-1990s to expand trade with china, it inevitably created overwhelming incentives for u.s. manufacturers, ranging from garments to the most sophisticated goods imaginable over to china. >> reporter: public citizen, a group that advocates for fair trade, says trump should now put his money with where his mouth is and make sure future products licensed with his name...

And any states that are doing okay are effectively being called on to subsidize states that were irresponsible. republican congressman mike pence is directly calling this a state bailout bill. how do you feel about that accusation? >> it is really baffling. before the crisis hit, the states had record rainy day funds. so a rainy day fund, they put away surplus money to be there for them if they need it in a recession. it was at an absolute record level. we've never rainy day funds that large in american history. but then, of course, we didn't just have a recession. we had the largest recession...