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Humanly possible to unseat the republican majority leader, eric cantor, who in fact was primaried out of his job. he did everything humanly possible to kick the republican house speaker john boehner out of his job and he did leave as house speaker and at the time steve bannon got picked to run the trump campaign, he was doing everything humanly possible to unseat the next republican house speaker, paul ryan, the one who is still there despite steve bannon's best efforts. that's what the mercer family had bannon using breitbart to do before they took him away from breitbart and sent him to the ...

Have him inside the tent than outside the tent. tomorrow for the first time, donald trump has to deal with the very real possibility that steve bannon will go out and use breitbart and his other -- the other institutions that he helps to command to put real pressure on the trump presidency and perhaps try to break off certain parts of the people who support donald trump. >> it's such an interesting idea about him having his own constituency and sort of a unique power but a unique form of leverage on the president, something that made it difficult for him to be in that sort of a senior role. i ...

Had bannon using breitbart to do before they took him away from breitbart. now that he's done with the administration and back at breitbart as of tonight, is he going back to that war waging on the republican party? or is there some new idea? what happens with the secretive billionaire mercer family as a factor now, now that they're back to paying steve bannon's salary instead of us taxpayers? joining us is jane mayer. there was an incredible piece of reporting that i'm sure put you on the mercer christmas list forever. thank you for being with us. >> glad to be with you. >> from what you unde...

The white house. and the mercer fortune will be behind him pushing this movement. i think one of the first showdowns we're going to see in the fall is going to be over funding that wall and i can imagine, i think you're going to see probably breitbart which is largely owned by the mercers and bannon which is -- who is an incredible propagandist and i think they will see if they can shut down the government, play hardball like they did with bannon before and eric cantor. >> jane, i'm thinking about the role of breitbart and the decision by the mercers to fund that and then take bannon out of th...

Provocation? >> i think i have heard that there's some interest by bannon and seeing if they can kind of launch breitbart tv of some sort. i mean, they're certainly not going to be alone in this field and you can take a look at rupert murdoch's media empire and see that he also has a tremendous amount of quite a bit more power and he was there lobbying for trump to get rid of bannon. so, you know, they certainly won't be alone in this. but i think -- you know, the thing that's interesting about bannon, he is -- he's a political pugulist. he's a very popular propagandist when he gets going. i t...