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Could pardon himself? i mean is that part of the conversation as well in terms of what trump is up to with all of these legal cases he's dealing with? >> it's a great law school question for future lawyers. we don't know the answer. i mean, i think it's probably no, you cannot pardon yourself. but no one knows for sure. it's never been tried before. but trump's best chance is to become president and then order his department of justice to drop everything. that he can do. but pardoning himself, i think, is a risky bet for him. in the end, he's going to hope he can push this past the election, o...

In clear and no uncertain terms about what is happening right now on a radicalized court. and i don't think that we can call it anything else. >> and we're out of time, but i want to go back to the law school question because as melissa pointed out, cheryl lynn went to nyu. but everybody else went to yale law school, there are a few far harvards on here. j. michelle childs went to i believe it was the university of south carolina. how important is -- would that kind of educational diversity be on the supreme court? >> from my perspective, it is very important because it explodes the myth that ...

The threat -- the existential threat post trump's presidency than we were at the beginning of this week for sure. >> you bring up a great point about the fact of the possibility of this criminal conspiracy being a criminal conspiracy that was launched right before the election. it was fraud committed on the american people. the cover-up and act to make it more likely that donald trump could be elected president. that's just, it seems to me, willie geist, that is a law school question waiting to be asked on a con law exam. can a president be indicted if the act pr actually helped him ormer beco...

Liabilities here, beyond what we have discussed. he ee's also alleged that he ma payments on behalf of his client without even telling his client, so that's a first year law school question. whether these affairs actually occurred is beside the point. >> and as we mentioned, melania trump is not with president trump, she's down in mar-a-lago with her son. >> understanding what kind of, you know, difficulties she's had since this story, you have to remember, this story broke back in january, as we say in journalism, it's has legs.

Line. he gave her permission to negotiate. >> if someone gives you permission to negotiate. it doesn't mean you have to go through with the sale. for example, if you go a car. o dealership but it's up to you buy the car and sign the contract. same thing in the particular scenario. he gave her permission to do that. i don't think that she had permission to actually sell the team. according to the agreement. >> obviously the judge has heard the tape of donald sterling. >> yes. >> how strong is his case? >> i believe he has a decent case. because just like we talked about the other issues and he ...