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Books, and that's why the lawsuit is so unusual, and that's why you saw such stinging dissents from the supreme court when that order went out. >> right. even among the chief justice john roberts. let me ask you, then, if i'm a state legislator in any state, couldn't i use the same loophole to challenge a whole host of what are otherwise constitutional rights and sneak it by the supreme court? >> well, that's what this -- that's why this door has been opened. it's interesting. i talked a couple days ago to somebody who was instrumental in this particular law thinking about it, and now hopes th...

The law's popularity is going down. the law has lost the uninsured. the uninsured disapprove of this law. this is the target population that this law is supposed to help. >> that's crazy. how do the uninsured not like obamacare? >> well, look at what happened. the president promised people could keep their health care, the premiums would go down, you could keep your doctor. the president promised all sorts of things about this law, we'll have a website up and running so you can buy health insurance on october 1st with subsidies. all of these things have been shown to be false. the president ha...