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>> well, that's all he had to say. thank you. >> i think we were listening to kevinni downing, paul manafort' long-time lawyer.in that wasn't for the judge or next week. we just heard a denial of something he's not charged with, which goes back to your organizing question on "hardball." whose tlr audience? because they're out there denying collusion.be and i'll tell you this. they don't need deny collusion. and that's for a different audience. >> you got four years for not telling the truth and four years for stone walling, four years for not apologizing. if he ehad, he would have got a trip from disneyland out of the judge. >> you're great on this stuff. >> thank you.'r >> and in the house intelligence committee.

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