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Which guarantees the quality and dignity and that's really where the abortion right and many other rights like lbgt equality-- >> i've got to give carrie 15 seconds on this, fair to say that the right is going to say unfairly attacking someone because of their religious beliefs rather than rulings and precedence? >> i hope that she's right and they don't go down that route constitutional and that sounds like a he religious test for office. and i hope they go high. >> with optimism, we'll have a lot to talk about in the next couple of weeks or months and the hearings in september for a vote. al...

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She's making it a front and center part of the conversation, and that's the only way that we can have a 21st century economy that reflects the realities of its workers. >> i've always thought, michael, that the biggest problem that mitt romney had in 2012 was that the best critique of the obama economy was a critique from the left on distributional grounds. it was basically look, rich people are doing well. the stock market has come roaring back. the banks have been made whole, how are you doing? but the problem is it was impossible for a republican to, for a million reasons, to credibly make ...

Religion, generally, by not taking into account that there are a lot of people of faith who believe in lbgt equality. so to pretend that religious freedom means that, oh, well, we just don't care about lbgt people, that's actually assuming that there's a very small group of people that have a religious faith, that that faith should be imposed on the rest of us. and that's not the case. and i think it's important that we talk about that as well. are >> and ana, when you report on the aca and these debates, that is the question, right? whether this is something that is asking someone else to cha...

Don't ask, don't tell. he's come out for marriage equality. obviously he's against russia's anti-gay propaganda laws. this sends a very strong message. but when we look at the international community rallying around this, do you think that the support is there to make a difference after the olympics? because that's when the attention goes away. >> right. i think that's a really -- that's a great question you're raising and i think a really key concern for us is what happens when the olympics are over. there's always a potential of some backlash against people working on the ground for lbgt equ...