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>> rick, i think that gentleman is 62 years old, which would have him a few years short of eligibility there. >> yeah, rick, let's be careful. >> but bigger picture, rick, for a republican sitting there in washington, look, we know it's been a challenge for them to put it mildly to come up with a unified alternative plan. they're going to replace obamacare with. it's a complicated thing, seeing these polls, how does that affect them psychologically? >> let's look at the history. the democrats were all in lock snap to pass obamacare. obamacare will collapse on it's own. you don't need -- you co...

Loud applause. is that going to get done in 100 days? >> obamacare is not a popular program. i think what the democrats will do, because they won't get -- they will be rebuilding what they have. they will be replacing the plan. the reason they need to get rid of it or repeal it because it's a lead airplane. so they are going to do things -- one called better way by speaker ryan. a bill and specieser of the house and head of hss who will be in agreement about what make competitive, lower cost at the

Did follow through with that timeline. do you see any of the issues that president-elect trump might keep, too, that are now being put forward by president obama? >> well, look, it's going to be a long leist. on obama in particular, i think congress is going to undo that. fixing obama care is like redesigning a lead airplane. it's never going to fly. you'll have to redo that through reconciliation. their strategy will be to have a communication strategy with the american people. what is going to happen to the 20 million people that acquired health care under obama care? what's going to happen ...

You have to articulate an alternative that people like. and so obama care -- look. obama care is not working. it's like a lead airplane. even though you have millions of people, all the people who are going to draw more out of the system than they'll put in. the whole way that obama care was to work in the first place is all these people didn't need health care. in other words, they wouldn't draw out of the system as much as the others. meaning they wouldn't draw out of the system as much as the others. they would put money in and it would be sustainable. that hasn't happened. and the presiden...

2014. health care. rick tyler is a republican strategist. jonathan allen is politico's white house bureau chief. rick, if i were to come to you as a perspective republican candidate, now that the affordable care act has been put into effect and people are getting insurance who heretofore couldn't get insurance, would your advice be to argue for repeal or reform? >> well, what i've been saying to all my candidates is the affordable care act, it can't work. it's a lead airplane. though people claim there are good things in it, i don't think it can be reformed. i think it has to be repealed. but ...